SAXON's NIGEL GLOCKLER On Use Of Backing Tracks During Shows: 'Putting Lead Vocals On Tape And Just Miming Is Ridiculous'

SAXON drummer Nigel Glockler has weighed in on bands who rely heavily on pre-recorded tracks during their live performances.

In recent years, more and more artists have been given a pass for relying on pre-recorded tracks, drum triggers and other assorted technology that makes concerts more synthetic but also more consistent. For better or worse, pre-recorded tracks are becoming increasingly common for touring artists of all levels and genres and they're not just used in pop music — many rock artists utilize playback tracks to varying degrees.

Speaking to the Syncin' Stanley YouTube channel about SAXON's and other rock acts' reliance on pre-recorded tracks, Nigel said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "We [SAXON] did use [backing tracks] once, at Wacken [Open Air festival in Wacken, Germany], 'cause we did an orchestral set, so we had a keyboard player with us, a percussionist. I think there was either four or six girl violinists with us, but there was extra stuff — orchestral stuff. Obviously, we couldn't have a full orchestra with us. So that time there was some extra stuff put on a backing track. I had to play to a click. I think we did it for about three songs… But we have done it just that one time. Generally we wouldn't do it. Because when we record, we try to think of… Later on, after we've done the recording and we're rehearsing for the live thing, we think, 'How can we do this? Do we cut things out? Do we think certain things have to change?'"

Glockler continued: "All these bands that are being caught [using backing tracks], I think, is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, lead vocals — lead vocals being tracked, so basically the singer is miming, I think, is out of order.

"I once went and saw a band in Dallas. I was looking at the bass player, who was doing great backing vocals, and I looked over there, and he was nowhere near the microphone. So it was on track. And then I later found out the lead vocals were all mimed, so they were on track. And I just think that's wrong. There's a German band I've heard of and they use something like 26 backing tracks. I mean, really? Can't they play it live or maybe get an extra keyboard player or something? And that I don't think is acceptable at all — unless the audience is told, unless it's on the ticket. In fact, I think it was probably about 20 years ago — people like Britney Spears and Madonna , I think, had to have something on their ticket saying certain parts of the shows are mimed, because the way they dance, I mean, there's no way you can singing dancing like that. So I think if the audience is told that some of it's mimed, then, okay, it's acceptable in things like that. But generally putting lead vocals and stuff [on tape] and just miming the vocal, I think, is just ridiculous."

Nigel added: "In the studio, I always use a click track when I'm doing drum tracks, but I think that's a different thing. But lip syncing what is supposed to be a live concert, to me, is just totally unacceptable."

KISS frontman Paul Stanley, who has been struggling to hit the high notes in many of the band's classic songs for a number of years, has been accused of singing to a backing tape on KISS's ongoing "End Of The Road" tour.

Back in 2015, KISS bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons slammed bands who used backing tapes for not being honest enough to include that fact on their concert tickets.

"I have a problem when you charge $100 to see a live show and the artist uses backing tracks," Simmons said. "It's like the ingredients in food. If the first ingredient on the label is sugar, that's at least honest. It should be on every ticket — you're paying $100, 30 to 50 percent of the show is [on] backing tracks and they'll sing sometimes, sometimes they'll lip sync. At least be honest. It's not about backing tracks, it's about dishonesty.

"There's nobody with a synthesizer on our stage, there's no samples on the drums, there's nothing," Gene continued. "There's very few bands who do that now — AC/DC, METALLICA, us. I can't even say that about U2 or THE [ROLLING] STONES. There's very few bands who don't use [backing] tracks."

This past March, KISS's longtime manager Doc McGhee defended Stanley's vocal performance on "End Of The Road", explaining that the "Star Child" "fully sings to every song" at every concert. He explained: It's enhanced. It's just part of the process to make sure that everybody hears the songs the way they should be sang to begin with. Nobody wants to hear people do stuff that's not real, that's not what they came to hear."

When McGhee was asked to clarify if he was "actually saying there are backing tracks that [Paul is] singing to," Doc said: "He'll sing to tracks. It's all part of a process. Because everybody wants to hear everybody sing. But he fully sings to every song."

In March 2020, SHINEDOWN guitarist Zach Myers said that "90 percent" of rock artists use at least some pre-recorded tracks during their live performances. He told Rock Feed: "It bothers me that it bothers people. I'm, like, 'Why does this bother you?' It's the way it is. People have been doing this since the '80s. And we want the sound to be the best it can be. Could we go up there, just the four of us, and put on the best rock show ever? Of course. But that's not how we wanna do it."

Former SKID ROW singer Sebastian Bach has previously said that he is "one of the last people" who are still not using pre-recorded tracks at their live shows. "I don't know how much longer I can say to you that I don't use tapes onstage, because I don't, and I never have," he told Consequence Of Sound. "And I still don't. When I have opening bands, and they're using tapes, and then I come out and I don't use tapes… sometimes, it makes me feel stupid, because I'm like, 'What am I doing, when all these kids half my age can come onstage and do all of my moves, but they don't have to warm up for an hour before the show, or weeks, before the first show?' Sometimes, I'm like, 'Why do I even bother, if the public is so used to this other way?' It's becoming very rare to come see a good band that's actually a real band — that's not miming or doing silly moves while a tape is running. It just becomes more rare as the years go on."

In 2019, IRON MAIDEN guitarist Adrian Smith said that he doesn't "agree" with certain rock artists relying on pre-recorded tracks during their live performances. "I tell you what, I see it with a lot of younger bands, and I don't think it's a good thing at all," he told the New York Post. "I mean, the music is getting too technical now. You have computerized recording systems, which we use, but I think we use them more for convenience than because we need to. We've toured with a couple bands that use tapes — it's not real. You're supposed to play live; it should be live. I don't agree with using tapes … I think it's a real shame."

One musician who has been open about his band's use of taped vocals during live performances is MÖTLEY CRÜE bassist Nikki Sixx, who said: "We've used technology since '87." He added the group employed "sequencers, sub tones, background vox tracks, plus background singers and us. [MÖTLEY CRÜE also taped] stuff we can't tour with, like cello parts in ballads, etc.... We love it and don't hide it. It's a great tool to fill out the sound."

In a 2014 interview, MÖTLEY CRÜE guitarist Mick Mars admitted that he wasn't comfortable with the fact that his band used pre-recorded backing vocals in its live shows, claiming that he preferred to watch groups whose performances are delivered entirely live. "I don't like it," he said. "I think a band like ours… I have to say '60s bands were my favorite — '60s and '70s bands — because they were real, like, three-piece bands or four-piece bands, and they just got up there and kicked it up. Made a mistake? So what? Sounded a little bit empty here or there? So what? It's the bigness and the rawness and the people that developed and wrote the songs and made them and presented them. To me, that's what I really like. I mean, I could put on a MÖTLEY CD and play with it all day long. I don't wanna do that."